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Patrick's 65% nursing home tax increase forces patients into Medicaid

by: Rob "EaBo Clipper" Eno

Sun Mar 07, 2010 at 13:19:15 PM EST


(Repealing this tax is now one of my goals.  This is onerous and disgusting. - promoted by Rob "EaBo Clipper" Eno)

First off an observation.  There is a tax per night on nursing home stays? There is a tax on health-care services, really.  Not only is there a tax the Deval Patrick administration increased it by 65%? from $11.59 per day to $19.17 per day.  It now costs a family $583 per month in taxes to keep a relative in a nursing home.  This is the state preying on the sick to balance their budget. Deval Patrick should be ashamed of himself.

The Lowell Sun is reporting that due to the increase in taxes families are opting out of privately paying for nursing home care and enrolling in medicaid.

Judy, 65, went to live at Sunny Acres Nursing and Rehabilitation Center in Chelmsford in November. Bob, a retired elementary school teacher, has been cutting deep into his savings to keep Judy comfortable in a private room, costing $340 a day.

Until January, when the nursing-home bed tax jumped from $11.59 a day to $19.17 per day -- adding hundreds to his monthly bill. Despite the soaring tax increase, the state slashed federal Medicaid reimbursement to nursing homes by about $23 million this year, leaving many elder-care facilities unable to cover the costs of daily care and forcing some self-pay patients into the Medicaid system.

Bob said his limited savings would not have kept Judy in the private pay system for the rest of her life, but the increased bed tax leaves the couple no choice but to place Judy into the Medicaid rolls sooner, and into a smaller room where she'll have one or more roommates.

Bob then goes on to explain how by relying on himself the government penalizes him.  The penalties are so high that he and his wife are being forced to rely on the state and medicaid, instead of paying for her care themselves.

"I'm paying for my wife's care and by doing that, I'm saving the state a lot of money," Bob said. "In return, the state has penalized me for doing that by taking my money for my wife's care and putting it in a place that doesn't benefit my wife at all."

This fee is an onerous intrusion on sick and the disabled.  It should be rescinded immediately.  

Rob "EaBo Clipper" Eno :: Patrick's 65% nursing home tax increase forces patients into Medicaid
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The word for this tax is obscene (0.00 / 0)
That's what we've been calling it since it passed as part of the tax package of 2002 that froze the income tax rollback and created a retroactive capital gains tax, which we worked with Gov. Romney to stop before it told investors that this state is nuts.
I wrote a column about the nursing home tax right after it passed
http://www.cltg.org/cltg/barba...   and CLT has been filing a bill for every session to repeal it. Instead it keeps getting increased.
What made it tough to fight is that the nursing homes were supporting it, knowing they could pass it on to patients. This is clearly not a fee-- the self-payers don't get any extra service for it -- it's a tax on those who pay their own way, to cover some of the Medicaid costs for those who are on that program.  There's no constituency for repeal since no one knows about it until the families of the self-payers get the bill. We had hoped to use our proposed legislation to be part of the discussion on health care reform, but there was no interest in repealing it during that debate.It remains an example of what's "sick" about our government.

 


Barbara you are absolutely right. (0.00 / 0)
This is disgusting.

Full Disclosure
http://www.redmassgroup.com/pr...


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URL correction (0.00 / 0)

Barbara, the URL link should be:

The Salem Evening News
July 9, 2002
Nursing home bed tax just another Beacon Hill scam
by Barbara Anderson

http://www.cltg.org/cltg/barba...

See also more info/links from me below.

        "Every tax is a pay cut -- A tax cut is a pay raise."


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Glad they picked up on this. (0.00 / 0)
I was first alearted tot his when Brad Jones' office sent out talking points the night of the State fo the State earlier this year.

This is very disturbing that the leader of the Democrat Party in Massachusetts would be responsible for such a tax on Seniors.  


Not just present Democrat leader (0.00 / 0)
The nursing home tax began with a proposal from the Swift Administration, with the intention of getting more Medicaid reimbursements from the feds. When the Legislature (led by that great "conservative" Tom Finneran), made it part of a tax package, Swift vetoed the entire package, but her veto was overridden.

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Obscene nursing home fee, been fighting it for years (0.00 / 0)

The Salem Evening News
July 9, 2002
Nursing home bed tax just another Beacon Hill scam
by Barbara Anderson

http://www.cltg.org/cltg/barba...

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The Salem News
March 7, 2003

Romney calls them 'fees,'
but for most they feel like a tax
by Barbara Anderson

http://cltg.org/cltg/barbara/2...

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The Salem News
May 30, 2003

Taxpayers should beware the latest in legislative fashion
by Barbara Anderson

http://www.cltg.org/cltg/barba...

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CLT's bills filed for the 2005- '06 session
November 29, 2004
http://www.cltg.org/cltg/clt20...

3.  Repeal of nursing home tax

Title:  AN ACT REPEALING THE NURSING HOME TAX

Theme:  It's not a fee unless you get something extra for paying it.

Summary:  The nursing home tax was passed in 2002 as part of the biggest tax hike in state history. The law says that nursing homes must pay a "fee" to the state for each non-Medicaid patient, to bring in $145 million a year. But nursing homes pass it on to patients who are self-payers, thereby forcing these non-Medicaid patients to pay even more of their own savings. Yet they get no services for the "fee" that the Medicaid patient in the next bed doesn't get, so it is not a true user fee (under the state Supreme Judicial Court's ruling in Emerson vs. City of Boston, 1984). The CLT bill repeals the unconstitutional "fee."

http://www.cltg.org/cltg/clt20...

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NEWS RELEASE
November 30, 2004

Legislation filed by and for Citizens for Limited Taxation
for the 2005-06 legislative session

http://cltg.org/cltg/clt2004/0...

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NEWS RELEASE
January 10, 2006

Memo to the Legislature
Re:  Illegal Immigrants, and Health Care Reform
http://www.cltg.org/cltg/clt20...

"...Required personal insurance would at least remind us all that health care isn't free and never was, and that recipients should contribute what they can toward the cost. Public employees should contribute the same average percentage as private sector employees. The state should stop mandating new coverage (there's a pending bill for hearing aids?!) and allow more choice in various levels of coverage to consumers. To further support the concept of personal responsibility, the outrageous nursing home tax on self-payers should be repealed. Taxing people for NOT going on Medicaid sends a very wrong message...."

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CLT UPDATE
May 25, 2006
http://www.cltg.org/cltg/clt20...

State Senate unanimously backhands taxpayers, voters

"... We thought we had a chance to repeal the despicable nursing home tax, amendment #16, because we had bi-partisan support. So the Senate leadership "consolidated" our amendment into a clump of other amendments it doesn't support, and none of them will be debated at all, ever see the light of day either...."

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        "Every tax is a pay cut -- A tax cut is a pay raise."


Nursing Home Fees (0.00 / 0)
 From personal experience, Medicare pays $356 A DAY for patients in a nursing home. Let me tell you, I didn't receive that much in care. One Sunday, I gave my personal aide money to go buy straws for my ward. The facility had run out. My nurses thanked me for the display of humanity. I didn't do it for a thank you, I did it for my friends. They may be old, they may be incommunicative, but they're still FUCKING PEOPLE! And they still deserve to be treated as people.  Please forgive my cussword, this touches me personally.

Horrible Tax (0.00 / 0)
I can't even fathom that a rational person would propose let alone implement this tax.


The additional tax is despicable, but........... (0.00 / 0)
that is all you can blame Deval Patrick for.  Truth be told the real crime here is the outrageous fee for having someone in a nursing home - and the fact that there are so many people in nursing homes.

It has long been known that nursing homes are so expensive that one must distribute their own wealth in order to take advantage of medicaid.  If Grandpa has $200K in the bank then he won't qualify, so move his money somewhere else and get on Medicaid.  It's virtually the same problem as our current health care system.

The answer, of course, is to stop those incentives and let families start taking care of Grandpa as they should.  Families need to start taking care of their elderly.  We simply can't afford to throw everyone over 70 into a nursing home on the government expense.  Look in the mirror folks - we are the freakin' enemy here.

It's the same with health care.  Mothers and fathers are so parentally incompetent that every time junior's nose begins to drip they race him off to the emergency room, ask for immediate service, get a $300 prescription, and then buy him a new Wii to make him feel better.  If parents could simply recognize a common cold when they see one it would create less demand on ER visits, fewer prescriptions and thus lower health care costs.  But alas, it is just easier to soak the insurance company for it - who in turn soaks everyone else.  

Way down deep this is really an issue about family values.


Today's risk of personal responsibility (0.00 / 0)

Read the 2002 column by Barbara Anderson on the risk of personal responsibility, vis a vis nursing homes and government incentives:

The Salem Evening News
Friday, June 14, 2002
'Dear Dad: You were right about the hazards of living in Mass.'
by Barbara Anderson
http://www.cltg.org/cltg/barba...

        "Every tax is a pay cut -- A tax cut is a pay raise."


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AN ACT TO REPEAL THE NURSING HOME TAX (0.00 / 0)

Filed in 2004 by CLT, and every session since -->

SENATE, No. 378
AN ACT TO REPEAL THE NURSING HOME TAX

By Mr. Brown, a petition (accompanied by bill, Senate, No. 378) of Scott P. Brown, Francis J. Faulkner, by Citizens for Limited Taxation, Brian P. Lees, Richard R. Tisei and other members of the General Court for legislation to repeal the nursing home tax. Elder Affairs

AN ACT TO REPEAL THE NURSING HOME TAX

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Court assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:
SECTION 1.

Section 25 of Chapter 118G of the General Laws, as added by Section 101 of Chapter 184 of the Acts of 2002 is hereby repealed.

http://www.cltg.org/cltg/clt20...

        "Every tax is a pay cut -- A tax cut is a pay raise."


Do you have this years bill number? (0.00 / 0)
Thank you Chip.

Full Disclosure
http://www.redmassgroup.com/pr...


[ Parent ]
Nusring home tax repeal - Current Bill Numbers (0.00 / 0)
http://www.mass.gov/legis/bill...

SENATE DOCKET, NO. 1701 FILED ON: 1/5/2009
SENATE . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . No. 305
The Commonwealth of Massachusetts

PRESENTED BY:  Scott P. Brown

To the Honorable Senate and House of Representatives of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts in General Court assembled:

The undersigned legislators and/or citizens respectfully petition for the passage of the accompanying bill:
An Act to repeal the nursing home tax

PETITION OF:
NAME:
DISTRICT/ADDRESS:
Scott P. Brown - Norfolk, Bristol and Middlesex
Mr. Tisei - Middlesex and Essex
Mr. Tarr - First Essex and Middlesex
Mr. Hedlund - Plymouth and Norfolk
Mr. Knapik - Second Hampden and Hampshire

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http://www.mass.gov/legis/bill...

SENATE DOCKET, NO. 1631 FILED ON: 1/12/2009
SENATE . . . . . . . . . . . . . . No. 312
The Commonwealth of Massachusetts

PRESENTED BY:  Fargo, Susan (SEN)

To the Honorable Senate and House of Representatives of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts in General Court assembled:

The undersigned legislators and/or citizens respectfully petition for the passage of the accompanying bill:
An Act repealing the nursing home tax.

PETITION OF:
NAME:
DISTRICT/ADDRESS:
Fargo, Susan (SEN) - Third Middlesex
Mary E. Grant - 6th Essex
Scott P. Brown - Norfolk, Bristol and Middlesex
Cleon H. Turner - 1st Barnstable
Richard J. Ross - 9th Norfolk
Thomas M. Stanley - 9th Middlesex
Benjamin Swan - 11th Hampden

        "Every tax is a pay cut -- A tax cut is a pay raise."


[ Parent ]
Wait.... Sue Fargo did something right? (0.00 / 0)
Now I'm all confused.  How did that happen?

"the Federal deficit is about ethics and morality, and it is, by far, the biggest problem we face. It weakens the country and exerts a creeping, negative influence on everything we do." - Charlie Baker.  HT:  Brent041

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Might be the fact (0.00 / 0)
that she's facing some tough challengers and needs to be seen as actually doing something for the taxpayers this year. Much like Coupe Deval and his sudden new-found reform bent.

Karl (TLC)Weld

[ Parent ]
Might be the fact (0.00 / 0)
that she's facing some tough challengers and needs to be seen as actually doing something for the taxpayers this year. Much like Coupe Deval and his sudden new-found reform bent.

Karl (TLC)Weld

[ Parent ]
Richard Tisei was also a sponsor of the bill (5.00 / 1)
Doesn't sound like the action of a tax and spend liberal does it ?

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CLT - For 36 Years the Voice of Bay State Taxpayers (0.00 / 0)

I would be remiss if I was not to point out that this is what CLT does -- daily, weekly, around the clock, for the past 36 years.

Was anyone aware that we have been fighting this obscene tax since before it was proposed?

CLT needs your support to keep fighting for you and other taxpayers.  We have saved you so much already, and keep fighting with every breath to keep saving you more.

If you're not a member, we sure hope you'll consider supporting CLT and its continuing defense of you, the taxpayer.

You can join through PayPal online at:

http://cltg.org/secure-web/mbr...

Please help share our members' burden, those members who've done so much for you over the decades.

The latest CLT Update carries a news report from the Hingham Journal:

We had one of those "ah-ha" moments recently when talking to a local consultant about affordable housing who - during part of the interview when asked about Prop. 2½ and "new growth" he replied - "That was a long time ago - I was only one (year old) in 1980."

It's hard to believe that more than a generation of Massachusetts residents have been born since Proposition 2½ became law some 30 years ago.

Many of those, now homeowners, either take the property-tax cap legislation for granted because they won't have known life any differently - or mistakenly believe that Prop. 2½ is the source of our budget problems....

A taxpayer rebellion had been boiling just below the surface for some time when Citizens for Limited Taxation took the ball and ran with it....

Today, nearly 30 years later, taxes have still gone up but clearly not at the same soaring rate they would have without the law....

It is easy to demonize Prop. 2½ as an enemy of local government and problem for budgets. But the facts are without the tax-cap limit, fewer people would be able to afford to live in Hingham and Massachusetts.

A Hingham Journal editorial
Thursday, March 4, 2010
Tax law came from the people

How many here fit into that category -- who don't remember how bad it WAS, and would be without CLT?

You can find the latest Update in full at:
http://cltg.org/cltg/clt2010/1...

You can sign up, make a contribution, and be part of your own salvation here:

http://cltg.org/secure-web/mbr...



        "Every tax is a pay cut -- A tax cut is a pay raise."


Repulsive .. (0.00 / 0)
I was entirely unaware that such a tax existed. This is a very enlightening post..

My opinion (0.00 / 0)
of this tax would have to substantially improve to even rise to the level I could call it obscene.

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