Obama authorizes assassination of US citizen

(An interesting post deserving of discussion.  What say you, RMG? – promoted by Paul R. Ferro)

By now you have heard that the White House (Barack Obama to you and me) has authorized the assassination of Anwar Al-Awlaki, the American citizen behind the attempted Christmas Day bombing and other horrible terrorist events.  If not, read about it here or here.

“Awlaki is a proven threat,” a US official told Reuters. “He’s being targeted.”

Now, I am not opposed to the idea of killing terrorists, but this case is a little different.  Unlike other terrorists, this guy is an American citizen and is therefore deserving of due process.

Think about it – the Christmas Day bomber, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who is a Nigerian citizen and operated at the direction of Al-Awlaki was almost immediately read his rights and will have access to the US court system. Al-Awlaki was behind the scenes and is a US citizen. So, why do foreigners that have the bombs attached to their underpants get a trial, but a US citizen gets assassinated?

Also, how does this jive with Obama’s attempt to let Khalid Shaikh Mohammed (born in Kuwait) get a trial in New York?

Think about this: President Barack Obama is ordering the assassination of a US citizen even though that citizen has not been found guilty of a crime.  Certainly he is suspected of a crime and most assuredly was guilty, but he has not been proven guilty in a court of law.  As a US citizen he deserves that due process.  And, if Obama can order US citizens to be killed, then who is next?  And for what reason?  

I want Al-Awlaki dead as much as the next guy for being a terrorist, but doesn’t he deserve a trail?  He is a US citizen for crying out loud…..

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  • “Awlaki is a proven threat,” a US official told Reuters. “He’s being targeted.”

    Targetted for what?  

    For investigation?

    For being picked up by CIA agents?

    Being picked up by SEALs?

    You being duped by a fancy headline?

    For the record, American citizen or not, if you’re “over there” and are doing what this guy is doing, I hope to hell there’s a Predator up there with a hellfire missile looking to put an end to you.  We should not endanger our troops to apprehend ANYONE in a theater of combat.  

    Vaporize ‘im….

    You find me overseas fomenting violence against the United States….feel free to vaporize me.

  • Kill ’em all. With people like the christmas bomber it should be a quick shot to the head. With an american terrorist?If we can apprehend them give them the trial. If we can’t, I agree with  strawberry.. vaporize him

  • I would think an American citizen should have American rights, and foreign terrorists would not deserve American rights afforded by the Constitution.

    But in any case, I would think being a Traitor to the country would deserve a trial.  Being a foreign national waging war against American would deserve a ride from the M16 special.

  • “Being targeted” doesn’t mean “for assassination.” How is this even above the fold right now? Stop being a paranoid Peter.  

  • You can just call me a bleeding heart liberal when it comes to upholding the Constitutional rights of US Citizens.  I’m also not too happy about the fact that our new Senator supports treating US Citizens picked up in the US as enemy combatants.

  • but having read them, it’s not like he’s in New Mexico now. He’s in a foreign country, fighting for an enemy who we have declared war on. That makes him no different than if an American joined the Italian army in WWII. You are not guaranteed the rights of an American citizen when you’re an enemy combatant in the field. Maybe if he were captured, but if he’s on a battlefield, which he is, we never play by the same rules.  

  • Vote3rdpartynow

    You might think that is a silly question, but consider how many left wing leaders truly believe that the Tea Party is made up of people who intend to bring violence to America.  It is suggested on a daily basis that Tea Partyers are like terrorists.

    Don’t think so?  Remember this, just last April the DHS issued a report titled: Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.

    Michelle Malkin wrote extensively about how that report in a broad-brush stroke labeled all religious conservatives and militia groups as lunatics and a threat to the country.  Refresh your memory here.

    So aren’t we sliding sown a slippery slope when the President can order the assassination of a US citizen because he (and he alone) thinks the person is a threat?  If the only reason needed to kill someone is “A proven threat” then those on the right should run for cover.

    Also remember how threatened Nancy Pelosi felt when she became aware of all the possible political turmoil and fighting there ‘might’ be.  See video below:

  • Vote3rdpartynow

    From this article here.

    Even more strikingly, Antonin Scalia, in the 2004 case of Hamdi v. Rumsfeld, wrote an Opinion  (joined by Justice Stevens) arguing that it was unconstitutional for the U.S. Government merely to imprison (let alone kill) American citizens as “enemy combatants”; instead, they argued, the Constitution required that Americans be charged with crimes (such as treason) and be given a trial before being punished.

    I am personally thrilled to be on the same side as Antonin Scalia – as usual….

    I also remember last June when Leon Panetta revealed to the House Intelligence Committee of a Bush era program run by Dick Cheney.  Though the program was never activated, its intent was to send assassination squads to kill Al Qaeda leaders.  Bush and Cheney were lambasted for the audacity of having such a program.  Read more about it here and how Obama is apparently continuing the program.

  • Freedomovertyranny

    I’m for killing terrorists but why not capture him if he was behind the Christmas Day plot? Imagine the amount of intelligence we could get out of him about future/current operations.  

  • shaking my head that y’all think this might be some sort of “news” because Obama is doing it.

    Whaddya think GWBush was doing with hellfire missiles launched at private vehicles in, say, Pakistan?

    That this guy is an American citizen is irrelevant to the tactic of targetting those fomenting anti-American violence overseas.

    Someone needs to get a grip and take off the partisan blinders……I commend the President for continuing this tactic.

    Now, for the other shit he’s been doing the last 2 weeks…..

  • bobneer

    Just saw this, and had pretty much the same post yesterday on BMG.

    There are many things that unite bloggers on both the left and the right.

  • Vote3rdpartynow

    what we had talked about a month ago.  Can the US government assassinate a US citizen without due process?  Here is the New York Times story.

    The notion that the government can, in effect, execute one of its own citizens far from a combat zone, with no judicial process and based on secret intelligence, makes some legal authorities deeply uneasy.

    I posted on the same story here over a month ago!